tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post7175777382038458007..comments2023-07-09T18:17:57.955+03:00Comments on Sagarone....: The Word or the Sword?Sagaronehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15996661303219925144noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-35457259924893147372009-01-21T10:34:00.000+03:002009-01-21T10:34:00.000+03:00Sagarone,Wonderful post. While we're all aware...Sagarone,<BR/><BR/>Wonderful post. While we're all aware about the Ahmediyyas, this little introduction to the founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is very interesting. It has piqued my curiousity further & I will read up more about him.<BR/><BR/>Ditto Dr. Abdus Salam.<BR/><BR/>Such is the nature of extremist thought...1conoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-23568167764147150212009-01-20T13:46:00.000+03:002009-01-20T13:46:00.000+03:00Wow Sagarone! That was a revelation! It is quite s...Wow Sagarone! That was a revelation! It is quite shocking that Ahmadis are considered non-Muslims! And even more shocking is that the only Pakistani to win a Nobel Prize, is being 'conveniently forgotten'..Smithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06168565596774930645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-52157358065759388202009-01-20T11:26:00.000+03:002009-01-20T11:26:00.000+03:00@How do we know, Thank you very much!@How do we know, Thank you very much!Sagaronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15996661303219925144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-59611148351369113422009-01-20T10:26:00.000+03:002009-01-20T10:26:00.000+03:00wow! you make a point really well. In all your pos...wow! you make a point really well. In all your posts, i noticed a consistent excellence in the way you communicate a point.How do we knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01763488475931737293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-79193038883821509242009-01-20T10:07:00.000+03:002009-01-20T10:07:00.000+03:00@Bones, An Ahmadi applying for a Pakistani passpor...@Bones, An Ahmadi applying for a Pakistani passport would have to declare that he is a non-muslim.Sagaronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15996661303219925144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-32143841345930250252009-01-20T09:47:00.000+03:002009-01-20T09:47:00.000+03:00So, Ahmadis can't get passports? This is very idio...So, Ahmadis can't get passports? This is very idiotic...Also, I can't understand why religion should be mentioned on the passport...Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15649563485896628766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-30395867591071914042009-01-20T09:34:00.000+03:002009-01-20T09:34:00.000+03:00@Vinod, Both the Bahais and the Ahmadiyyas origina...@Vinod, Both the Bahais and the Ahmadiyyas originated from Islam. The difference is that the Bahais consider themselves as followers of a new religion, while the Ahmadiyyas consider themselves Muslims. But both abolished Jihad. And the trouble with Pakistan is that they feel that the version of Islam they practice is the only correct one.<BR/><BR/>@Bones and @hitch writer. My mistake. Only if you are a Muslim, you have to make the declaration quoted in the post. The Pakistani Government designates religion on citizens' passports. To obtain a passport, citizens must declare whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim; Muslims also must affirm that they accept the unqualified finality of the Prophethood of Mohammed, declare that Ahmadis are non-Muslims, and specifically denounce the founder of the Ahmadi movement. Original post edited to reflect this.Sagaronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15996661303219925144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-8061154787783829142009-01-20T09:11:00.000+03:002009-01-20T09:11:00.000+03:00the above is startling !!! I thought even Hindu's ...the above is startling !!! <BR/><BR/>I thought even Hindu's existed in Pakistan. How can a country force every one to accept one religion ?hitch writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07533278513292989066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-18809947310219918322009-01-20T07:43:00.000+03:002009-01-20T07:43:00.000+03:00So, what happens to the non-Muslim minority in Pak...So, what happens to the non-Muslim minority in Pakistan? How do they get passports?Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15649563485896628766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22513530.post-66355888966268520002009-01-20T06:04:00.000+03:002009-01-20T06:04:00.000+03:00I was not aware that the state of Pakistan expecte...I was not aware that the state of Pakistan expected its citizens to sign such a declaration. I think the text will surprise and dismay many Indians. With so much of intolerance being pursued as state policy in almost everything, I really wonder how anyone can expect that country to live in peace with a secular India which is like a mirror showing it what it does not want to see, every day?<BR/><BR/>I think the Bahai sect that originated in Iran is another one that rejects the sword and believes in the unity of all. The hold of the mullahs may be strong now in the Islamic world and they may have succeeded in terrorising ordinary Muslims into submission to their view, but eventually, the Word will prevail over the sword.Vinod_Sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654167848186778789noreply@blogger.com